Good Afternoon all!
Right I am helping out some friends of mine that have started setting up a camp site in (or just outside of) Bude.
They are setting it up with the most consideration for wildlife one could possibly have. Solar panels and a small turbine are powering and providing hot water for showers, composting loos (the high tech ones!!) and other facilities are done as environmentally-friendly as possible, and they only plan on having up to 10 tents pitched there for a maximum of a month a year, as additional income.
They have landed themselves into trouble with the council because of planning permission, and would benefit from some advice from people who have been there before, or who'se job it is to fight other people's battles!..
If you have seen the series "It's not easy being green" then they are the two sisters who were helped by Dick, James and Jim to set things up.
If you have the time to help a hugely good cause, please get in touch with me and I can then in turn put you in touch with them..
Many thanks
Duncan Glendinning
Looking for Eco-lawyers or Architects to help with planning
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I am not sure what you mean by "I doubt very much that the council will issue a licence on have no conventional facilities"As a camper I can tell you that camp site will need planning permission and need a licence from the council, I doubt very much that the council will issue a licence on have no conventional facilities. It's the system I am sorry to say!
They have the facilities, and intend on going far and beyond that in fact, the problem is that they should have gone through all the right channels first. This is a problem, but what they are now trying to do is ensure they get their project back on track.
I look forward to hearing what help anyone can therefore provide.
Duncan
let me see if I understand this right, they seriously thought they could buy a field and turn it into a campsite and didn't think they might need permission to do it ? is this the case, if so I have difficulty mustering anything in the way of sympathy, it is totally obvious that planning permission would be required.
I can only speak for the planners in my area but they were and are extremly helpful and a quick phone call has always told me if I am ok to do something, not ok or on the borderline (I live in a conservation zone in a national park and have had to get PP to put up a greenhouse). So talk to them... lots
If you are in the unenvieable poisition of applying for PP retrospectivly then.
1) you are on the defensive now, play it that way, don't put the planners backs up anymore, be more accomodating than mister accomodating during national be nice to a stranger week !
2) the planners will (quite rightly in my opinion) be very festidious about all details, you have already shown your hand at disreguarding the rules, they won't risk missing anything, live with it and see point 1 again !
3) They can't refuse you PP just cos you didn't ask first, they can however make life hard for you, in this case, tough you brought it down on yourself.
Don't give up, but do remember that planning rules and regulations, torturous though they are mean that there are no tower block in my village, and no sewage works next door to me, they are a good thing, if they do refuse you PP then it will normally be for a very good reason !
I can only speak for the planners in my area but they were and are extremly helpful and a quick phone call has always told me if I am ok to do something, not ok or on the borderline (I live in a conservation zone in a national park and have had to get PP to put up a greenhouse). So talk to them... lots
If you are in the unenvieable poisition of applying for PP retrospectivly then.
1) you are on the defensive now, play it that way, don't put the planners backs up anymore, be more accomodating than mister accomodating during national be nice to a stranger week !
2) the planners will (quite rightly in my opinion) be very festidious about all details, you have already shown your hand at disreguarding the rules, they won't risk missing anything, live with it and see point 1 again !
3) They can't refuse you PP just cos you didn't ask first, they can however make life hard for you, in this case, tough you brought it down on yourself.
Don't give up, but do remember that planning rules and regulations, torturous though they are mean that there are no tower block in my village, and no sewage works next door to me, they are a good thing, if they do refuse you PP then it will normally be for a very good reason !
How hard can it be, how long can it take. What could POSSIBLY go wrong
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Tescos, et al, seem to have no trouble at all with retrospective PP, and are very rarely (never?) required to pull down a supermarket, so take heart.
As this is not a multi-million pound, globalised enterprise, I think that you may have to consider persuing this without professional help - lawyers and other proffessionals can quickly get very expensive (last time I used one he charged £140 per hour plus tax). But somewhere like Amazon may be a good starting place.
Colhut is right about your approach to the planning office - they are usually pretty helpful. Remember that the planning officers don't make the decision - thought they can make recommendations - so they should deal with you impartially. And you will be paying a fee for their services.
Also, ask for a copy of the local development plan - usually a weighty tome (you may have to pay for it), but it might be available online or at your local library. This should set out the local policy on planning applications regarding all sorts of situations. Take your time with it - it can be very dry reading - but it's important to try and understand what the local policy is of what may and may not be permitted.
Also talk directly to the councilors who are on the planning committee (these are the people who make the decision); find out who they are from the council offices, get some phone numbers and ask to see them, so that you can discuss the plan.
And remember that if you don't get the decision that you want, there are levels of appeal.
As this is not a multi-million pound, globalised enterprise, I think that you may have to consider persuing this without professional help - lawyers and other proffessionals can quickly get very expensive (last time I used one he charged £140 per hour plus tax). But somewhere like Amazon may be a good starting place.
Colhut is right about your approach to the planning office - they are usually pretty helpful. Remember that the planning officers don't make the decision - thought they can make recommendations - so they should deal with you impartially. And you will be paying a fee for their services.
Also, ask for a copy of the local development plan - usually a weighty tome (you may have to pay for it), but it might be available online or at your local library. This should set out the local policy on planning applications regarding all sorts of situations. Take your time with it - it can be very dry reading - but it's important to try and understand what the local policy is of what may and may not be permitted.
Also talk directly to the councilors who are on the planning committee (these are the people who make the decision); find out who they are from the council offices, get some phone numbers and ask to see them, so that you can discuss the plan.
And remember that if you don't get the decision that you want, there are levels of appeal.
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