Flavour of supermarket veg
Flavour of supermarket veg
A couple of weeks ago when we were in town we had lunch, which was a filled baked potato (which was nice) and "salad", which consisted of half a dozen wafer thin slices of tomato and a lump of coleslaw.
The tomato was absolutely tasteless, less taste than a glass of water, which raises the question .. why?
I'm still picking my windowsill grown tomatoes and they are full of flavour, and they are "non sun ripened" as we haven't seen hide nor hair of the sun for many weeks, but they are still sweet/acid and full flavoured.
I'm sure those salad tomatoes were grown in southern Spain, with probably more winter sun than we have in the height of summer, so why totally tasteless?
The reason of course is that the variety is chosen for many qualities, and flavour isn't one of them.
Which is probably more or less the case for all fruit and veg sold in supermarkets.
Which is sad.
The tomato was absolutely tasteless, less taste than a glass of water, which raises the question .. why?
I'm still picking my windowsill grown tomatoes and they are full of flavour, and they are "non sun ripened" as we haven't seen hide nor hair of the sun for many weeks, but they are still sweet/acid and full flavoured.
I'm sure those salad tomatoes were grown in southern Spain, with probably more winter sun than we have in the height of summer, so why totally tasteless?
The reason of course is that the variety is chosen for many qualities, and flavour isn't one of them.
Which is probably more or less the case for all fruit and veg sold in supermarkets.
Which is sad.
Tony
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Re: Flavour of supermarket veg
Add to your observations:
1. Means of production
2. Transport
3. Storage
4. Breeding for long shelf life
1. Means of production
2. Transport
3. Storage
4. Breeding for long shelf life
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Re: Flavour of supermarket veg
Yes, the main factor is being able to harvest them all in one go.
I wonder if they're also pretty tasteless because they're given sufficient feed (hydroponically) to mature but not sufficient/good enough quality to give the produce any flavour or colour - they're always really pale too.
I wonder if they're also pretty tasteless because they're given sufficient feed (hydroponically) to mature but not sufficient/good enough quality to give the produce any flavour or colour - they're always really pale too.
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Re: Flavour of supermarket veg
Producing for money often leads to lower quality. Primark anyone?
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Re: Flavour of supermarket veg
why does a salad always have to come with tomatoes no matter how awful they taste. With so much amazing root veg available, there is no need for this at all. I can't grow tomatoes in winter, but I can dehydrate mine and store for the winter in oil, they have so much more flavour this way. Lack of imagination in most places is why they are happy to use substandard veg, I wonder if they actually ever bother tasting the stuff they are putting out.
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Re: Flavour of supermarket veg
These would be people who have never tasted properly fresh or grown their own so wouldn't know what was wrong if they did taste I suspect.
Re: Flavour of supermarket veg
I suspect you're right Flo. Supermarkets are very good at insisting on the lowest price and consumers have come to expect low produce prices as a norm.Flo wrote:Producing for money often leads to lower quality
Taking those tomatoes for instance, as you said earlier, the cost of production must be rock bottom or they won't sell. So the variety to grow is an F1 that grows fast, sets lots of largish fruit that quickly ripens, is easy to pick, doesn't bruise during picking and transport and has a very long shelf life.
Flavour doesn't even get considered.
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Re: Flavour of supermarket veg
Nope so the answer is to go to local producers who grow crops to suit local conditions and work in season. You won't get home grown tomatoes in January mind which might shock a lot of the population of the UK but you will get decently tasting veg.
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Re: Flavour of supermarket veg
Its all about "bling"! Everything is marketed to attract the eye and hence the Buck - even the packaging (including the carton the toms are shipped in) is carefully designed to attract the buyer; and like all bling, the product does not match up to the hype.
In Oz there are a number of food labelling requirements; the Nutritional Information Panel which details a minimum set of food nutritional measures such as fat type and content, carb content etc. and the Health Star Rating which awards up to five stars depending on the "healthyness" of the food - eg my bottle of tonic water has a one and half star rating and zero nutritional value except for callories and carbs (its mostly water and sugar).
However (there is always a however) these labelling laws to not apply to fresh fruit and veg, beer, unpackaged foods, beer and repacked "portions" such as deli carving up a cheese wheel and selling wedges - (they do have to display the lebel at point of sale). I would not advocate forcing more packaging to get the label requirement but it would be nice if the retailer had to display the nutritional value of fresh foods at point of sale.
I am just picking my first vine ripe toms (yes, very late) and the flavours are great, even if they are cracking after heavy storm rains. one in particular has an apple size fruit and is possibly the best I have tasted in years. This one I got from a friend who saves his seed every year so its lineage is probably lost in the mists of time.
In Oz there are a number of food labelling requirements; the Nutritional Information Panel which details a minimum set of food nutritional measures such as fat type and content, carb content etc. and the Health Star Rating which awards up to five stars depending on the "healthyness" of the food - eg my bottle of tonic water has a one and half star rating and zero nutritional value except for callories and carbs (its mostly water and sugar).
However (there is always a however) these labelling laws to not apply to fresh fruit and veg, beer, unpackaged foods, beer and repacked "portions" such as deli carving up a cheese wheel and selling wedges - (they do have to display the lebel at point of sale). I would not advocate forcing more packaging to get the label requirement but it would be nice if the retailer had to display the nutritional value of fresh foods at point of sale.
I am just picking my first vine ripe toms (yes, very late) and the flavours are great, even if they are cracking after heavy storm rains. one in particular has an apple size fruit and is possibly the best I have tasted in years. This one I got from a friend who saves his seed every year so its lineage is probably lost in the mists of time.
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