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Anybody have any advice on spacings for Loganberries, Tayberries, Blackberries & Blackcurrants? I've got three plants/canes of each. Was planning to plant them around the outside border of my future fence that will enclose my veggie patch I think. Also, should I be training them on something or will they stay in control just letting them do their thing? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated - only grown strawberries before sooo.... am unfamiliar with these types growth habits.

loganberries, blackberries and raspberries grow like brambles. They're better if you train them, because they don't get into a knotted mess of thorns. you can train them up trellis, or sheds, just keep pruning them into shapes.

Blackcurrants/gooseberries/redcurrants are like little bushes. I'm hoping to triain my blackcurrant and gooseberry into espalier fans, from what i've read, it should be possible.

I recently planted some blackcurrants and spaced them allowing about a good 1.5 metres all around as I imagine they will grow into decent sized bushes like redcurrants.

This from a book of mine. It covers loganberries and boysenberries, but the tayberries and blackberries will be treated the same.
Site: A fence or trellis in a sunny part of the garden is desirable; the plants may also be trained on wires attached to a board or paling fence in much the same manner as climbing roses. A reasonably sheltered position should be chosen, as exposure to strong winds during spring and summer may break flowering shoots and scorch the leaves, particularly in coastal areas.
Planting:For fan trained canes about 6ft. between plants, but about 10ft. for plants grown horizontally on a wire fence.
Training:Fan training needs a fence 6ft - 7ft high, with 4-5 wires spaced 15in apart on which 12-14 canes are tied. The bottom wire should be about 15-18in off the ground. Canes should be pruned a few inches above the top wire. The fence method needs a three wire fence aout 4'-6" high to which the canes are tied. AS Fee said, blackcurrants are trained as bushes.

Robin

hi
I have a tayberry that I planted last year and its already rather wayward. Its growth is just like that of a bramble - rapid, prickly and inclined to go where it wants - and if it touches the ground it will root giving you more plants. My plant is already about 6 ft wide but if yours are going to be against a firm fence you could train it in a wwww fashion and it will take up less space.
Does anyone have any tayberry recipes?