Fantasy-Ish island

[glenniedragon]

*An escape to fantasy *
If we all clubbed together and we bought an Island and had an Ish community?
How big would it have to be to allow each of us to have enough land to be self supporting?
What specialities would we bring with us?
For example there's 4 of us- is 5 acres greedy? I bring my chickens, Veg growing and wine making. OH is good at historical/wilderness/survival stuff. He's a scientist and I was a Nurse so some practical skills in an emergency there too.
Anyone else want to come?

kind thoughts
Deb

[Shirley]

If we were clubbing together for an ish island then we wouldn't need that much land as an individual because we could grow and nurture co-operatively. Everyone could lend a hand with the various jobs on the island and we'd all reap the rewards equally.

Ohh what bliss.

[glenniedragon]

Ahh, very true I hadn't thought about that, maybe a couple of acres each would be enough- as an island too we'd have a coastline to 'farm' too. Not that I'm much good on boats to be honest

kind thoughts
Deb

Here's a few to whet your appetites!
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/lit ... island.htmScotland
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/motukawaitiocnz.htmNZ
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/dia ... greece.htm Med
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/kis ... e-park.htm Africa
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/sta ... island.htm E coast
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/dun ... dranch.htm W coast

[Stonehead]

Here's a few to whet your appetites!
http://www.privateislandsonline.com/lit ... island.htmScotland

Wee Cumbrae would be my choice. I've already seen the details for it and it's a beauty!

There's the big main house (12 bedrooms), the old keep, a couple of cottages, a studio flat, three lighthouse keeper's cottages, a massive greenhouse, stables, gardens, jetties, 684 acres etc etc etc.

Price? £2.5 million. Split it 10 ways and that's £250,000 each. Split it 20 ways and that's £125,000 each.

And for the full details have at look at http://www.humberts-leisure.com/uploads ... umbrae.pdf. PDF.

[Shirley]

Price? £2.5 million. Split it 10 ways and that's £250,000 each. Split it 20 ways and that's £125,000 each.

So... who do we pay the deposit to? I would.. if we could find enough people to share to bring the price down.

[PurpleDragon]

Yeah, but you'd have to be awfully sure of the folk you wanted to share with!

[aussie]

Take a look at how many communes set up in the '60s and '70s are still runing and viable- none, here, that I'm aware of, and there were dozens.
A fine ideal, untill you factor in human nature.
Even when there were plenty, most of the folk were on welfare, not self-supporting.

[Stonehead]

Take a look at how many communes set up in the '60s and '70s are still runing and viable- none, here, that I'm aware of, and there were dozens.
A fine ideal, untill you factor in human nature.
Even when there were plenty, most of the folk were on welfare, not self-supporting.

Findhorn - 1972 to present

Annares - 1988 to present

Canon Frome Court - 1979 to present

Beech Hill Community - a relative newcomer, 1994 to present

Christiana - 1971 to present

Twin Oaks - 1967 to present, and definitely a self-sustaining one

Black Bear Ranch in California - 1968 to present.

The Farm, Tennesee - 1971 to present


Ganas - can't remember when it started but it's still going after 30 or so years

Twin Oaks, another 30-year-old US commune

Given time, I could think of more. I think there are a couple of hundred communes/intentional communities in Europe and somewhere around 1,100 to 1,200 in the US. There are quite a few in Canada, Israel, Australia and New Zealand, too.

There are also many Christian and other religious communes as well as the ones for people with anarchist, hippy, alternative lifestle, eco-villager visions etc.

[Wombat]

Can it be a coincidence that you listed Twin Oaks - twice

Nev

[Muddypause]

Take a look at how many communes set up in the '60s and '70s are still runing and viable- none, here, that I'm aware of, and there were dozens.
A fine ideal, untill you factor in human nature.
Even when there were plenty, most of the folk were on welfare, not self-supporting.

Findhorn - 1972 to present

Annares - 1988 to present

Canon Frome Court - 1979 to present

Beech Hill Community - a relative newcomer, 1994 to present

Christiana - 1971 to present

Twin Oaks - 1967 to present, and definitely a self-sustaining one

Black Bear Ranch in California - 1968 to present.

The Farm, Tennesee - 1971 to present


Ganas - can't remember when it started but it's still going after 30 or so years

Twin Oaks, another 30-year-old US commune

Given time, I could think of more...

Those I've had an acquaintance with:

Radfield 1978 to present, middle England
Monkton Wyld Court 1982 to present, Southern England
Monimail Tower Project, Fife, Scotland 1984 to present
The Community Project, SE England 1998 to present (nearly joined this one)
Laurieston Hall, SW Scotland 1972 to present.

The last one is probably the one with the most interesting history of those I've visited. It's been through a whole gamut of communal philosophies in its time, and still has a couple of the original residents there. This place and Radfield have a wealth of experience on how to survive communally. Radfield even runs occasional courses on it.

Have a look at the Diggers and Dreamers site for a fuller list of UK based examples.

[Stonehead]

Can it be a coincidence that you listed Twin Oaks - twice

Nev

Sorry, combination of tooth ache and gut ache means I'm not too focused at the moment.

[glenniedragon]

Well So far we have the most votes for Europe, The scottish island is over 600 acres, so divided between 20 thats 30 acres each for £125,000 (a little under £4200 per acre) plus we'd have the communual bit in the middle that we could have mainlanders in for eco-holidays......ahh bliss...now who's going to shout
"Boss da plane, Da plane"?

Kind thoughts
Deb

PS as scottish land owners would we be Lairds?
PPS the sea level could rise 14m and there would be little change! our climate change refuge! http://flood.firetree.net/

[Stonehead]

PPS the sea level could rise 14m and there would be little change! our climate change refuge! http://flood.firetree.net/

And if you look at the pics, you can see it comes with a castle and a pair of cannon for keeping all the desperadoes at bay!

[Paddy's mum]

No, no Stonehead. I'm in for my share of the money but those cannon and the keep are MINE! I will make sure my Neighbour From Hell can't get me, one way or another.

As far as skills go, I'm good at ermm, ........ well, babysitting for a start, or so my daughters tell me. I'm happy to bring my livestock and plants, with associated knowledge and since I've been told many times that I'm a bit bossy, that's the Leadership sorted!! Where do I send the money?

[the.fee.fairy]

I voted for med - look at all the wonderful veg you can grow there!

As for Ish Island...Count me in. Might have to sell a few (all) posessions, and do some unholy favours, but i'll get the cash!

Can i have one of the cottages..? I'm not convinced you'd all want to live with me or the puppy!!