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Did anyone see Panorama?

Why are we so greedy for cheap food that we have to destroy the planet and take out these beautiful orangutans in the process!

Palm oil is apparently the cheapest vegetable fat and is a hidden ingredient in bread, biscuits, spreads, soap the list goes on.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/panorama/hi/front ... 523999.stm or watch again on BBCi player

We need to use our buying power ( or rather NOT buying) like the free range egg campagne!

palm oil in loads of things - it is hard to avoid. often listed as 'vegetable oil' in marg etc

I used to like Pure margarine, very organic it appeared and nice taste, until I read it contained palm oil - so back to good old colesterol butter.

Not all palm oil is bad. Like everything else it gets exploited to the nth degree by big business who don't care what they trash. But there are plenty of good, sustainable not primate-threatening palm plantations. Just buy from sustainable sources and its fine.

Although agreeing with GA's point, oil palms can be grown in lots of other places than the habitats (rare that they are) of Orangs. It's this kind of stuff which makes my blood boil to the point of sometimes despairing of the human race (well, the commercially-driven part of the human race, at least). With the possible exception of the Giant Sloth, these creatures are probably the gentlest things the world has ever seen and, since we seem to have taken over the world, their well-being is our responsibility. Them and a host of other species.

Will we never learn?

Mike

hello there ,

like i wrote in other posts , we european pricks are so on the look out for cheap food and other stuff .
As in the documentary , blood sweat and takeaways , how we or the big companys squeeze out the poor workers in Indonesia for 25 p per hour to supply us cheap rice ( 100 times more expensive than there ).

We are all so busy on looking out for the cheapest deal that on the other hand we are destroying the planet ,
but that is safe cos it is 15000 miles away .

The same goes for palm oil , Unilever is likely the biggest user of the product , and they will
use it in our daily food products , make it like unavoidable for us , unless we turn to local
produce , but wait ,that is not always straight forward , the local council , governments wants us to have permits and so .

It smells .

reagards,

Paul

By piecing together a complex ecological puzzle, biologist Willie Smits has found a way to re-grow clearcut rainforest in Borneo, saving local orangutans -- and creating a thrilling blueprint for restoring fragile ecosystems.

inspiring video,the bloke is a hero. Shows how is should be done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vfuCPFb8wk