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Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:36 pm
by Thomzo
Over the last couple of years, I have been experimenting with different types of bedding for my chooks so I thought I’d share that experience with anybody who can be bothered to read all this.

Just to explain, I have one flock of hens in a converted shed with a concrete floor. They have access to an outside run. I then have some bantams and ex-bats in outside runs with smaller, wooden boxes for nesting/sleeping. The main purposes of the bedding are to provide scratching on the concrete floor, comfortable bases for the nest boxes and something to keep them from drowning in mud outside. The outside boxes also need something to keep the floors dry.

A general piece of advice, whatever you use, douse it with louse powder when you put it down and don’t bother to spread it around. Leave it in a pile in the middle of the floor and the birds will take great delight in arranging it as they want it.

The first thing I tried was shredded paper. Straight cut shredding is worse than useless. It doesn’t absorb any moisture or smell, it clogs up the compost heap afterwards and gets strewn around the garden by the wind. Worst of all it gets wound around their legs, like wading in spaghetti! Cross cut shredding is marginally better if mixed with grass clippings as it prevents the grass from clogging up and they help each other to break down.

I tried using grass clippings on the concrete floor with some success. Green clippings are fine in summer as they scratch it about allowing it to dry. It also provides great “entertainment value” keeping them quiet for days (useful if you have a cockerel). I also experimented last year with drying some for use in the winter as hay which worked really well. Wet or dry it masks chicken odours really well.

Moss raked from the lawn was also a big success. Raked on a dry day it provides lovely soft, warm bedding and all three houses currently have this on the floor. Again it provides much entertainment value and masks smell well. It seems to stay reasonably dry outside and the bantams currently have it on the floor of their run. Dry leaves in the autumn were also very good and lasted for ages on the concrete floor before being added to the compost heap.

Hedge prunings are fantastic in the outside runs. The entertainment value is phenomenal (as evidenced by a great deal of hopping and wing flapping and cries of “ooh come and look at this” when it’s delivered). It also helps to keep their feet out of the mud and, after a few weeks, the woody sticks that are left can be put on the bonfire. Lonicera hedging is their absolute favourite.

Bought wood shavings (only buy specific chook bedding so that it excludes dust and harmful cedar) is great for absorbing moisture (used all winter in the outside boxes) but is relatively expensive. It has the advantage that used shavings can be recycled directly onto the garden as mulch. Bought straw is cheaper and they seem to quite like it for the nesting boxes.

Do add your observations as well as I'd love to hear other ideas.

Cheers
Zoe

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:54 pm
by becks77
Hi there,
I only have 2 hens, and they only have a relatively(I think ) small house, they are bedded on straw which as you say they love to kick around and arrange no matter how nicely you do it, its never quite right!, there are no nest boxes as such so they nestle down in a dark corner and lay their eggs there. Very happy chooks haven't tried any other bedding as this seems to suit all of us very well, and of course goes in the compost no problem.

Becks

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:41 pm
by dave45
I only have privet hedge prunings... should I try it inside or outside? do they eat the leaves? are chooks smart enough not to eat stuff that is bad for them?

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:59 pm
by rockchick
We have 2 hens and a cockerel who roam free most days, but have a reasonable sized run for occassions when they can't be let out. We only inherited them when we moved last summer so are in fact still on our first sack of bedding. It is some recycled newspaper that has been de-dusted or whatever they do in sort of squares rather than shredded in strips. Anyway, frankly I'm not convinced, and reading this I am more certain that its not the best answer. For a while I have been concerned that its not really doing it for them, although they seem to lay quite happily in it, it does seem to get everywhere and it sticks to the eggs. I like the idea of hedge trimmings in the outside run as they did get very muddy at some points recently and we have heaps of hedge trimmings so I will definitely give that a go!

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:36 am
by Millymollymandy
I use sawdust in the nest boxes and under the perch and straw strewn around the rest of the shed, which is large. Fresh straw keeps them occupied for hours!

I currently have wheat straw which I don't like as previously I had barley straw which was much softer and more pliable. I don't think this is a problem in the chook shed but is a problem for duck bedding which has to be literally mucked out every day. We now chop up the wheat straw as too much was being wasted picking up duck poop all squashed and flattened into the straw which was very long and straight. Under the straw I have a thick layer of sawdust to absorb the liquid that comes out of ducks' rear ends. :lol:

Before getting the ducks a bale of sawdust would have lasted me probably a year. Now I get through a bale every couple of months! :roll: Yet another reason not to replace them when they go to the great duckpond in the sky.

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:21 am
by Annpan
Do you think long dried out weedy type stuff is OK? Last month I went around the garden stuffing all the dry stuff (long grass, weeds, sweetpea plants, sticky willy, bindweed) into a net bag... it is hay like. I have 3 bags full now - and likely I could gather more if I tried.

I found shredded paper on freecycle but I am glad I haven't got it yet... but I don't want to buy in bedding if I can use something that is already growing or that I can grow.

Will use grass clippings mostly... maybe I'll try to find a way of drying quantities out at a time.... hmmm...

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:12 pm
by Thomzo
Annpan - yes go for it. If it doesn't work you can always get some straw or sawdust instead but I think it sounds like chicken heaven.

Zoe

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:13 pm
by grubbysoles
I think I might just print this whole thread out and put it in a little folder somewhere. Very good info for us chicken-keeping newbies :wink: And even more of a motive to make sure I finally cut the grass this weekend. Sounds like the girls will love it :cooldude:

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:40 am
by Annpan
What about Newspaper? we have piles of the stuff - FIL buys 2 broadsheets a day and we get it for lighting the fire and for the compost heap but it might be good to line the chook house with it?

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:02 am
by grubbysoles
Could I throw my old cut flowers in their run for them to play with, or is that a bit optimistic? My Mother's Day flowers are past their best now. If I cut off the ends off the stems (the bits that have been sat in the vase water) would the chickens be safe to play with the rest of the flowers? I'm not even sure what flowers they are - sunflowers, and some pink things and some blue things! I must work on my horticultural knowledge...

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:58 pm
by Thomzo
Grubbysoles,

The trouble with bought flowers is that you don't know what pesticides they might have been sprayed with. I stick to things from my own garden as I know that I haven't used any poisons on them. Not only that but some cut flowers are sprayed with paint (honestly - heather is regularly sprayed to make it look brighter).

I wouldn't trust them personally but someone might know better.

Zoe

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:10 am
by Millymollymandy
Not to mention the dyes that have been put in the water before they sell the cut flowers so that they take up the dye and the flower changes colour. :roll: I absolutely wouldn't put them in with the chooks. The flowers or their stems might be toxic anyway.

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 7:18 am
by grubbysoles
OK, I'll steer clear of the flowers :wink: I have a nice big pile of grass cuttings in the garden now, so just hoping for some bright sunshine today to dry them out a bit then I shall chuck the mite powder on and lob it all in. I wonder if they'll have as much fun rolling around in it as my daughter did yesterday... :mrgreen:

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:13 am
by Annpan
ARRRGHH!! mite powder???? tell me more please. I don't have any.... my chooks should be here on Wednesday, do I need it or can I wait till saturday to go to the market to get some. is there an alternative (I don't like the idea of dusting powder everywhere TBH)

Re: Some (long) notes on chook bedding

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:44 am
by grubbysoles
I'm very inexperienced in these matters, Annpan, but I bought a tub of red mite powder and just dust it over any new bedding that I'm putting into their house, or anything I'm putting into their run. It's very possible that I'm being over-cautious!!