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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:07 am
by DominicJ
ocailleagh wrote:DominicJ wrote:Really? I'm almost always right guessing genders, not that I take that as proof af psychic ability mind.
I should think not, a 50/50 chance hardly makes it a challenge
Though, to be fair, complementary therapies, psychism and Witchcraft are often more associated with women so your assumption was quite fair in that respect.
But in theory, I should be right 50% of the time, the last time I remmber being wrong was about 4 years ago.

Re: Quacks or special talents?
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:11 pm
by AXJ
MKG wrote:I'm just getting into a quiet barney on another site about the new legislation on spritualists, mediums, astrologers and others of that ilk. It promises to be a good one. Just wondered what, with a site full of pagans, the general attitude is here. Should they be allowed to charge for their services, or should they be burned at the stake (not literally, of course).
I'll come straight out and lay my cards on the table - I think that at the first mention of charging for services, the word CHARLATAN should appear, just like here, in capital letters.
I forgot to say, agreed.

Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:11 pm
by ocailleagh
DominicJ wrote:ocailleagh wrote:DominicJ wrote:Really? I'm almost always right guessing genders, not that I take that as proof af psychic ability mind.
I should think not, a 50/50 chance hardly makes it a challenge
Though, to be fair, complementary therapies, psychism and Witchcraft are often more associated with women so your assumption was quite fair in that respect.
But in theory, I should be right 50% of the time, the last time I remmber being wrong was about 4 years ago.

Which goes to show that these things aren't always down to chance! Why not try experimenting with it? Maybe using coin tosses...first try guessing heads or tails for a number of attempts, then try influencing it!
Or there are random number generators on various sites, have a go at influencing one of those! Its uncanny!
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:04 pm
by MKG
Oh, the ways statistics mislead people!!!!
On a two-way shot, you have a 50% chance of being correct. On the next two-way shot, you also have a 50% chance of being correct. Having guessed once correctly in no way alters the evens chance of guessing correctly again. Over a series of two-way shots, the
probability of guessing correctly consistently decreases. However, the
possibility of doing so, no matter how long the series, never goes away.
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 12:35 am
by ocailleagh
MKG wrote:Oh, the ways statistics mislead people!!!!
On a two-way shot, you have a 50% chance of being correct. On the next two-way shot, you also have a 50% chance of being correct. Having guessed once correctly in no way alters the evens chance of guessing correctly again. Over a series of two-way shots, the
probability of guessing correctly consistently decreases. However, the
possibility of doing so, no matter how long the series, never goes away.
Well, yes...obviously. But some people will consistently a high percentage of correct guesses, others will vary and still others will gain a consistently low percentage. Most, if not all, will be able to improve their score with practice. Theoretically at least.
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:34 am
by AXJ
ocailleagh wrote:
Well, yes...obviously. But some people will consistently a high percentage of correct guesses, others will vary and still others will gain a consistently low percentage. Most, if not all, will be able to improve their score with practice. Theoretically at least.
In my opinion getting a high percentage of correct guesses mearly illustrates that the experiment need to be continued untill the probablity balances out. Hense a lucky streak, it is just that.
Have a listen to this, it is quite interesting
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/ino ... 080529.ram
PROBABILITY
Heads or tails? It’s a simple question with a far from simple answer. One that takes us into the strange and complex world of probability.
Probability is the field of maths relating to random events and, although commonplace now, the idea that you can pluck a piece of maths from the tumbling of dice, the shuffling of cards or the odds in the local lottery is a relatively recent and powerful one. It may start with the toss of a coin but probability reaches into every area of the modern world, from the analysis of society to the decay of an atom.
Contributors
Marcus du Sautoy, Professor of Mathematics at the University of Oxford
Colva Roney-Dougal, Lecturer in Pure Mathematics at the University of St Andrews
Ian Stewart, Professor of Mathematics at the University of Warwick
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/ino ... 0529.shtml
Now knowing when the phone is going to ring, that gets more interesting for me.