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johnhcrf wrote:Tmen can be part of the child rearing, though women are better with the emotions.

What a load of twaddle. I, and quite a few men of my acquaintance, are more than capable of dealing with the "emotions" of caring for children. Just as more than a few women I know are not. Don't judge us all by yourself.

I disagree. I think the bond between mother and child, throughout life, is a unique thing. A child's early memories are all about the mother as weaning is a female activity. This will never change!

johnhcrf wrote:I disagree. I think the bond between mother and child, throughout life, is a unique thing. A child's early memories are all about the mother as weaning is a female activity. This will never change!

Rubbish... breast feeding is an entirely female thing (and even with that, Dads can be an immense help)... but ALL other aspects of raising a child can be done just as well by a man, and are in some households.

To say that women are better at emotions is just nonsense.

Stonehead wrote:

johnhcrf wrote:Tmen can be part of the child rearing, though women are better with the emotions.

What a load of twaddle. I, and quite a few men of my acquaintance, are more than capable of dealing with the "emotions" of caring for children. Just as more than a few women I know are not. Don't judge us all by yourself.

well said.

Annpan wrote: To say that women are better at emotions is just nonsense.

also well said.

and I think it's a cop out.. if a man does not take on the emotional side of raising his kids on the grounds that he is male

I think the bond with each parent is unique, but that both are quite necessary in the emotional growth of a child.

I can tell you from experience what its like growing up as a young woman without a father figure. Dad's are crucial.

I agree that father figures are important, but a lot of that is not emotional support. Father figures represent the dominant male role which is more of a restraining influence. Where fathers are the sole support they have to take the emotional role, obviously. Nevertheless, it sits more easily on the female.

red wrote:

I agree whole heartedly.

I can't contruct an answer that does not use expletives... Im just going to walk away from this thread now....

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johnhcrf wrote:I agree that father figures are important, but a lot of that is not emotional support. Father figures represent the dominant male role which is more of a restraining influence. Where fathers are the sole support they have to take the emotional role, obviously. Nevertheless, it sits more easily on the female.

Pardon my bluntness, but, hogwash! Fathers are a guiding force, they inspire, they lead. Mom's are good for crying with, dad's show you how to fix it so you don't have to keep crying over the same things. They teach strength, but maybe that's what some people mistake for "restraining influence" or lack of emotion.

johnhcrf wrote:I agree that father figures are important, but a lot of that is not emotional support. Father figures represent the dominant male role which is more of a restraining influence. Where fathers are the sole support they have to take the emotional role, obviously. Nevertheless, it sits more easily on the female.

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sorry mods/admins I will get me coat, but this sort of victorian carp should have been buried with the queen of the era

Hiya guys n gals,

firstly, please don't delete that wonderful post! Very valid and totally relevant.

I have lots to say. (i'm sorry)!

I am a stay at home mother, and I think it is probably the most important job, anyone (Man or Woman) can do.
I am of the opinion (as a woman) that I am the best person for the Job, not to discount Dads at all, but I do think Mums in the most part are designed for it, (women are generally more gentle, calm, and patient).

I know I am going to upset loads of people! I did say Sorry!

Also in My family situation, I am the Gardener, the Carpenter, Plumber, Mechanic, Builder, cleaner etc... My Husband does do his bit He goes to work and earns the pennies, and he cooks rather better than me, albeit 2 days a week!

I also am constantly asked when will I be going back to work? I have a family member who I think resents me not working, but I feel that "Family" is a situation these days that is hanging on by a thread!

We as women, wanted the freedom to choose, just as Men did if we worked, if we stayed at home...and so on...but I think something got lost in all the struggles for power, households now have to maintain a standard of living to "fit" in with society, this means all parents working, convenient shopping and buying food out of season from Chilie and South Africa...

The point is, we do need a parent (Adult) at home, be it Man or Woman, In my opinion most women would be more suited at this role! Only by doing this do we have any chance of becoming even slightly more selfsufficient!

Take care all
I'm going to bed! I am sorry if I have offended anyone, it was not my intention.
Xe
xXx

Hey Xe, I don't think what you have said could offend anyone

I personally don't believe that male and female roles can be generalised, I know many men who are very 'emotional' and many women who are not, I know many men who don't know how to discipline a child and many women who do.

I think that it is each couples choice to decide how the balance sits (assuming that Mum and Dad - in whatever form - are together)

For us, it is similar to you, for my neighbour it worked differently...




I DO find it offensive to both men and women to say that men are the strong ones, and children love their mothers more, OK I am paraphrasing here, but still, it is utter rubbish