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I was, but only on a couple of occasions. Not twice within on hour as the daytrippers liked to do.

The problem with the lajority of the daytrippers is the same problem as we get at Whitby Goth Weekend. There, they come alonjg to 'be goths' for the day and end up insulting everyone. At BGG, they come along to 'do the festival, or ton 'be hippies' for the day...and end up insulting everyone.

The thing with BGG is that the event grows. its like a living entity. Its really difficult to explain, but its like something that grows every day and is diferent every day. There's lots of art along the sides of the paths, and that chenges every day...bits get added, bits get taken away. The year before last, there was a gorilla made out of recycled stud]ff. He started as a wire sculpture, and by the enmd of the festival, it was a fully fledged gorilla with red LED eyes. Going for the day means that people miss out on it.

Most festivals have an offer for locals. Its to keep them sweet. Most of them have cheaper tickets, but the BGG decided to offer day tickets.

Sadly, in my experience, those that come on day tickets don't think about the problems they might cause for the rest of the festival goers. They just go there to 'have a good time' for that one day.

I've been to many festivals, Leeds, Reading, Download, WGW, and they've always had trouble with day ticket holders. Leeds and Reading have more thefts by day tickets holders than by full festival ticket holders. They have more violence caused by daytrippers, the same as WGW does. Download had more drunkenness by daytrippers (they can go home and sleep it off in their comfy bed...).

So...I agree with BGG's decision to not sell day tickets. I wish they wouldn't sell them to locals as well...

it might not be the locals.

if you look at the day ticket info for last year most of the local shops were offering mail order. (sigh)
which means people from far away can come for the day... which is ironic... in a not very green sort of way.

I do understand what you mean about the festival building up etc. I have, before i got livestock, been to lots of folk fests.. the work shops build up over 3 days, after living the life its almost as though you forgot there was another life outside the festival.

however, there is some irony in excluding those with animals and crops to attend from a festival about being green!!!!

Not really, you don't have to be green to have animals. The thing is that BGG is a GREEN festival, not a self sufficient, or living away from it all festival.

And, if the local shops were doing mail order then you could have got a ticket (i admit, hindsight gives you 20/20 vision...).

And it is nice to walk around on the sunday looking at other people and knowing that a lot of them have also spent 5 days in a tent, and not washed, and had the pleasure of the portaloos, but that neithe they nor you care because everyone's in the same boat!

the.fee.fairy wrote:Not really, you don't have to be green to have animals. The thing is that BGG is a GREEN festival, not a self sufficient, or living away from it all festival.

true. but it is a green thing to do to try and grow as much of your own food as possible. and one of the things I was interested in last year was about wool processing. turns out you cant do that if you actually have sheep...

not sure what you mean by lving away from it all. lived in this area all my life.

Well I hope your shareholders only bash goes ahead - as that will probably be small and like the original festival, not like what it has become.