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Post: # 4250Post ina »

MMM - be careful with bracken. It can be toxic (maybe not the very young ones), and I believe a lot of people are allergic to the spores - at least we've always been advised to wear mask and gloves when handling a lot of it.

In past centuries they used it as bedding for livestock and for thatching here in Scotland. There's loads of it around, it's a bloody pest, to be truthful, and if there is a way of using it sensibly I'd love to know about it! Actually, there's somebody at Aberdeen University who's doing a PhD on that subject, but I've not heard that anything useful has come out of it yet. Maybe he has given up in despair. :(

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Post: # 4253Post wulf »

I think bracken contains cyanide, although I can't remember where I got that from. There's an article on Wikipedia but that doesn't mention cyanide and actually suggests they may be edible... I'm not sure I'd risk it.

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I believe bracket only becomes carciginous in the autumn when the spores ripen. I use it up until August on the compost heap. It's even better if I can be bothered to bash the stems.
The book recommends only plucking the emerging stems when they are 3" high and cooked like asparagus - only longer. Serve with melted bacon fat. How very non PC.
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Recipe for Beech-Leaf Noyau.
Pack an earthenware or glass jar almost full with yough beech-leaves and pour on gin, pressing the leaves down until just covered with the gin. Leave for a couple of weeks. Next strain off the, by then, brilliant green-coloured gin and to every pint add up to a pound of sugar - depending on how syrupy you wish the liqueur to be - dissolved in half a pint of boiling water. Finally add a little brandy, mix well and bottle when cold.
The recipe says the result will be sweet, slightly oily and very potent!! :mrgreen:

Jack-by-the-Hedge or in-the-Hedge is a garlic mustard. Latin name Alliaria petiolata. It grows about 3' - 4' tall and has pale green heart-shaped leaves. Wonderful, slightly garlicy, peppery taste - great in salad.
Can also be used as a vegetable or, apparently locally to me in Somerset, they used to make a sauce out of it for salt fish where it is known as 'sauce alone'. Other local names are: Beggarman's oatmeal, lady's needlework, lamb's pummy or poor man's mustard. Hope all that was helpful???
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Post: # 4256Post couscous »

Hey Wulf - that was a great link. Immediately found Jack-by-the-Hedge there too - if you want to see a picture Ina.
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Post: # 4284Post ina »

Hi couscous - thanks very much for all that info.

There definitely must be cyanide or something like it in bracken (but as you say, in the older plants). For one experiment we were taking bracken samples and storing them for a while in plastic bags in the freezer. After defrosting, you could smell the poison when you opened the bags! Slightly almondy smell. (Or isn't that arsenic? Got to get my Agatha Christie out...)

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Post: # 4299Post Millymollymandy »

Isn't that plastic/que explosive? (the almondy smell).

On A Country Life forum the editor is living in Canada and they were talking about some kind of fern shoots being a delicacy at this time of year. I thought it was some Canadian fern, guess it was plain old bracken. I don't think I'll bother now and anyway it's too late as it's 6 foot tall!

However I was reading somewhere (where????? can't remember but possibly French gardening magazine) that the bracken smell deterred either carrot or cabbage root fly. Now I'll have to go and google that!!! It's also useful for a winter protection around delicate plants.

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I was a MOD in the 60's, does that mean I'm a Chav hasbean????????????????????

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