can I say this?

[mrsflibble]

I wouldn't mind meeting einstein or my great great gran, but elvis can go stick it.

[oldfella]

Don't worry about it, have another drink

[Wombat]

I used to get very worried by this when I was little; what if I'm just a dream, or I don't really exit? Aaarrgh.

Then one day I had one of moments of clarity and it was all so clear. To sum it up, the very process of me questioning my own existence caused me to exist. The cool, clear understanding that you get in those lucid moments has passed by I can remember the conclusion so I stopped worrying.

As for there being different realities I don't have a problem with this either. We can all accept that on a small scale there are subjective truths. E.g. I really didn't mean to offend someone by saying something but at the same time I really did offend them. For me this applies on a larger scale as well because truth and reality are both illusory, at least in terms of what my limited little mind can grasp.

I'm not too worried by this and sometimes find it quite liberating. Think of it in historical terms, in 1000 years will you, any of your endeavors or any concept of You exist? Of course they won't. You as a solid reality will have ceased, but what if this solid reality never existed in the first place? Thus we see the problem with our ideas of what 'Reality' is. We exist and are real but in a manner that we don't, or aren't capable of understanding.

What a lot of twaddle I've written, must go and watch the Matrix now, ooo, it's sooo Sunyata

Cogito ergo sum!

Nev

[Super.Niki]

Makes sense that everyone has their own reality... I mean if a fly can see things and move soo quickly they must be living in a faster world?

That and if everyone had different senses of realities it would explain why some people are very naive and accepting whereas other people question things?

personally I try not to worry too much: "If it's gonna happen, then it's gonna happen, so why worry about it until it does?" (my best mate John, best bit of advice he's ever given... sober!)

[ina]

Cogito ergo sum!

I understand Latin, so I must exist...

[witch way?]

You ever noticed how people who are 'on another planet' seem happier? w.

[johnhcrf]

I did Latin too : Noli Illegitimo Carborundum

[witch way?]

Cogito ergo sum!

I understand Latin, so I must exist...

Erm ... I don't. (Disappears in a puff of smoke).

[The Riff-Raff Element]

Oh well, if that is the case: fere libenter homines id quod volunt credunt

I agree about Elvis. Mind you, I'd quite like to meet Ivor Novello.

[Andy Hamilton]

I never got away with the fact of being Hermes so yes it was me....

What I think I was trying to say is that.. if you think about flatworms and how all of a sudden they could see. Nothing on this planet could see before them, so sight became part of the consciousness of the earth, perhaps there is something more than the senses we have; something beyond sight, touch, taste, hearing and smell. Perhaps we can't even comprehend this new sense and paerhaps geese, sheep, dogs and cats can see it.

Perhaps I am talking out my arse.

[marshlander]

Magna res est vocis et silentii temperamentum

[MKG]

You're moving dangerously close to the Gaia priciple there, Andy. In case you don't know, there are two versions - the pseudo-religious one and the (slightly) more rational outlook in which the earth is regarded as an almost-but-not-quite sentient, self-correcting mechanism. Both versions allow for that "something else" you're talking about, so it may be an interesting thing for you to read up on. Whatever you think about it, it's certainly fascinating.

[Andy Hamilton]

Nope I did not know that was close to the Gaia principle, cheers though it does sound like a direction of reading that might interest me.

er "the great thing is to know when to speak and when to keep quiet.", hmm might have a point too.

[ocailleagh]

You're moving dangerously close to the Gaia priciple there, Andy. In case you don't know, there are two versions - the pseudo-religious one and the (slightly) more rational outlook in which the earth is regarded as an almost-but-not-quite sentient, self-correcting mechanism. Both versions allow for that "something else" you're talking about, so it may be an interesting thing for you to read up on. Whatever you think about it, it's certainly fascinating.

The two different versions are pretty much the same really. And the "pseudo-religious one" (which is actually not so much with the pseudo) came first, just slightly. In the modern age at least. I believe it was Tim Zell, a well known Pagan, who came up with it.

[MKG]

Yep, you're right - my slip was showing.