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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:52 am
by Ranter
Aren't we asking for Plots for Crops, or even Allotments for Vegetables, rather than the other way round? We've got, or rather will be, the Crops, what we're campaigning for is the Plots in which to plant them/ ourselves...

Drat, I've just noticed all the 'we' references I typed, guess that means I'm onboard too. :cheers:

What about contacting Transition Town steering groups where you have one locally? Growing local food is on their list of things necessary to move away from a society based on using fossil fuels. I reckon most groups would love an eye-catching event like this.

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:36 pm
by hamster
I think we are the vegetables/crops and we were for allotments/plots, like Fathers 4 Justice are fathers who want justice, as per Andy's original suggestion.

I think. I might have totally missed the point. :?

And, yes, Transition Towns might be interested. I'm happy to ask the two initiatives near me once I know what we're asking them to do.

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:30 pm
by oldfella
I have the same problem as Hamster and Ranter, and I think that Plot 4 Crops is a nice catchy title and says it all

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:58 pm
by Andy Hamilton
Hmm, I guess the name is quite important really. Perhaps we should have a show of hands?

Will get back to put some proper organisation into this if I get some time to myself next week..... So what day should we go for a big push?

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 11:05 pm
by MKG
Crops 4 Plots is, without any shadow of a doubt, the wrong way round. You ain't asking for the crops. If anything, then, Plots4Crops. On the other hand, that sounds a corny as Hell. Ah - what do I know?

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:21 am
by maggienetball
I know it seems that we are getting hung up on the name rather than yje issue but, to me anyway, both of those names miss the point.

We are trying to get MORE plots. Allotments for vegetables seems to imply that we are protesting other things happening to or growing on allotments and crops for plots implies some sort of farming. I appreciate the 2nd one is punchier though.

What about reusing the old "Digging for Victory" which everyone associates with growing food. It shows fighting spirit, determination and growth.

Or "Allotments for your Area", boring but sums it up.

Or "Health not Housing" (ooh political!). Could have an under slogan saying green spaces for growing or something.

Or "Growing Green in your Area"

Or "Outside spaces to feed our faces" - ooh this is the best one yet! :cheers:

Ok, my ideas aren't great but there are loads of people on here that are good at this sort of thing. I'm sure someone can come up with a really catchy slogan.

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:22 am
by ina
MKG wrote:Crops 4 Plots is, without any shadow of a doubt, the wrong way round.
No, it's not! You are dressing up as the crops, and campaigning for plots...

You are, kind of, playing the homeless crops, desperately trying to find a place to put down your roots...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:27 am
by maggienetball
ina wrote:
MKG wrote:Crops 4 Plots is, without any shadow of a doubt, the wrong way round.
No, it's not! You are dressing up as the crops, and campaigning for plots...

You are, kind of, playing the homeless crops, desperately trying to find a place to put down your roots...
Ah, but a good slogan shouldn't need an explanation.

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:47 am
by ina
You are right - if so many people do need an explanation, maybe it's not the right slogan to choose. I understood it straight away, but then my mind might be a bit warped...

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:04 pm
by hamster
Andy Hamilton wrote:Will get back to put some proper organisation into this if I get some time to myself next week..... So what day should we go for a big push?
Apparently it's National Allotments Week in August - 11th-17th. We could tie in with that maybe?

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:31 pm
by ina
ina wrote:
Andy Hamilton wrote: Dave thinks a different name might work better and suggested CROPS FOR PLOTS. I think he is right.
Snappier - very good!
Andy Hamilton wrote: I was thinking of other publicity stunts you could try too, such as sitting in public parks dressed as vegetable having a tea party fully equiped with tea set and bloke dressed a butler, tea set, chairs and even violin music. Could be amusing.
Oh yes, please! There is an orchestra somewhere in the world that makes musical instruments out of vegetables - must google that and find out more! Could be a lot of fun!!! :cheers:

Knew I'd seen it somewhere - and it happened to be on the Food Programme today (which I missed, due to lambs arriving...)

Voila - the Vienna Vegetable Orchestra:

http://www.gemueseorchester.org/

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:33 pm
by circlecross
dh came up with "every allotment helps" :mrgreen:

"growing for gold" - link it with olympics - green gyms across uk

"can u dig it? Yes, 6 of u can!"

"veg-to-table" (another one of dh's :? )

make lovage, not war" :dave:

"lots more plots"

I could, and probably will, go on...

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:56 am
by Ranter
Oh heck, what have I started (pedant hangs head in shame)

Whatever we call it, it's a fab idea & I do want to be involved.

There's a story on our local paper's website today about the rise in sales of veg seeds & how many allotment sites are full with waiting lists. I reckon it's a very timely campaign.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:23 pm
by Andy Hamilton
Some time in August I think is a very good idea not only to tie in with allotments week but also that is the slack time for jorno's no news. mind you I bet some huge event will happen now.

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:25 pm
by Andy Hamilton
oh and how about allotments 4 all? I know it is already a website but I don't think that matters so much.