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Another good reason Fee.
The Australian leg was mostly Australian bands but I don't know if any of them jetted to another destination. More than likely I would say some did

red wrote:surely everyone has heard this message already?

...agreed...preaching to the:

a. Already converted.
b. Those who don't give a damn!

I was a pretty simple message - recycle, save electric, don't use plastic bags... that people either do or don't care about (at least in the UK).

Don't want to be overly cynical, but the whole cult of celebrity thing that rules us gets to me!

On the subject of Plastic bags. One of our local supermarkets here rewards you for using your own bags by giving a 3 cent discount per bag. Doesn't sound like much but I love it and it will hopefully catch on one day to the others.

I agree with everyone, green is the new black!, it makes my want to throw rubbish on the floor just to be differant!!
No not really but it really gets to me.
What a waste.

Does this mean that as a fully fledged goth, i need to start wearing green instead of black?

hmm...

its almost funny like something Douglas Adams would have written

fading rockstar wrote: we are like so worried about the planet and global warming..we have decided to put up a country sized sign covered in lightbulbs telling people to turn stuff off...

ok i made that up - but that's what its like..

and what will happen is people will rebel... cos they dont want to do what they are told by a has-been their mum used to like....

LOL Fee I will have to tell my son that as he is Goth and proud of it. He will be interested in the fact that there are Goth people on this site

lol, im an ex goth - i found the look a bit too much effort to keep up and ended up going completely the different way, with a hippy look now....so your son wont be impressed with me!

Oh Emma me to but I still wear a lot of black but since my back injury I am now what my son calls happily Bohemian. I still listen to the heavy metal music and all the bands my son loves.
I still tend to shall we say not fit in around the place bacause of my ideals I think thats why I love it in here. Lots of like minded lovely people

i agree and understand, everybody on this forum is lovely

and, it seems my realistic cynicism is catching :)

really great to read others havent been taken in by this greenwash. we cannot consume our ways out of the mess that consumerism has created!

we cannot consume our ways out of the mess that consumerism has created

Hmm, if each isher (vegetarians obviously can opt out) eats 2 heavy polluters a day.....

Seriously though you are spot on and it's a message that governments are having trouble with, this isn't an issue for political maneuvering but possibly for the first time the whole world must act as one!

pskipper wrote:... this isn't an issue for political maneuvering but possibly for the first time the whole world must act as one!

Except for the time they all got together and tried to build the Tower of Babel ;)

I think the biggest problem at the moment, on a global scale, is nations (particularly the huge ones like China) catching up on consumerism. Places like the UK are getting cleaner and greener (although arguably not enough); however, as other places aspire to "Western" standards of living, an awful lot of environmental havoc is being wreaked.

Wulf

My town was just given a praise on being one of the lowest in air emmisions and also second in the fact that as a community we are lessening our footprint. YAY for us