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I had a loaf that looked pretty good, then I turned it over and all the air was knocked out of it... not very nice... Though browning it in the oven for 5 mins put an OK crust on it. I think that I'll go back to just using the oven though.
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Actually - to me most of the British bread seems to be corpse bread... And when you look at all the additives that are in a normal loaf, it seems to me they've done a good job on the embalming, too.
what desturbs me most is E900 or calcium propionate. a very common- getting more common each time I go to the supermarket- ingredient in white shop bought loaves. they claim their loaves (warburtons, asda, T***o) are veggie-proof, but they neglect to mention that E900 is made from animal hair.
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WHAT.... SE disappears to look for her E numbers book...mrsflibble wrote: what desturbs me most is E900 or calcium propionate. a very common- getting more common each time I go to the supermarket- ingredient in white shop bought loaves. they claim their loaves (warburtons, asda, T***o) are veggie-proof, but they neglect to mention that E900 is made from animal hair.
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and what does it add to the loaf?Silver Ether wrote:WHAT.... SE disappears to look for her E numbers book...mrsflibble wrote: what desturbs me most is E900 or calcium propionate. a very common- getting more common each time I go to the supermarket- ingredient in white shop bought loaves. they claim their loaves (warburtons, asda, T***o) are veggie-proof, but they neglect to mention that E900 is made from animal hair.
mmm...that burnt animal hair note...it adds so much...
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According to the book at my local organic market, and Wikipedia, calcium propionate is E282, not E900. E900 is something called polydimethylsiloxane.mrsflibble wrote:what desturbs me most is E900 or calcium propionate. a very common- getting more common each time I go to the supermarket- ingredient in white shop bought loaves. they claim their loaves (warburtons, asda, T***o) are veggie-proof, but they neglect to mention that E900 is made from animal hair.
I couldn't find out anything about the origins of polydimethylsiloxane, but before you get too worried about the veggie claims of these foods it may be good to do a bit more digging first.
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sorry, i spend most of my time leafing through my e-numbers books due to my own sensitivities to colourings that they get messed up in my head.
here is what wikipedia says about it:
"As a food additive, it is listed as E number 282 in the Codex Alimentarius. Calcium propionate is used as a preservative in a wide variety of products, including but not limited to bread, other bakery goods, processed meat, whey, and other dairy products.[1] In agriculture, it is used, amongst other things, to prevent milk fever in cows and as a feed supplement [2] Propionates prevent microbes from producing the energy they need, like benzoates do. However, unlike benzoates, propionates do not require an acidic environment.[3]
Calcium propionate is used in bakery products as a mold inhibitor. Mold contamination is considered a serious problem amongst bakers, and conditions commonly found in baking present near-optimal conditions for mold growth.[4]
A few decades ago, Bacillus mesentericus (rope), was a serious problem,[citation needed] but today's improved sanitary practices in the bakery, combined with rapid turnover of the finished product, have virtually eliminated this form of spoilage.[citation needed] Calcium propionate and sodium propionate are effective against both Bacillus mesentericus rope and mold.[citation needed]
According to the Pesticide Action Network North America, calcium propionate is slightly toxic.[5] This rating is not uncommon for food products; Vitamin C is also rated by the same standards as being slightly toxic. [6] Calcium propionate can be used as a pesticide.[7]"
warburtons crumpets is the only ingredients list i can come across on the net but :
Wheat flour, water, salt, Raising agents E450,E500,Yeast,Sugar,Preservative Calcium Propionate.
so far the only use i can see for the real E900 is Silly Putty.
here is what wikipedia says about it:
"As a food additive, it is listed as E number 282 in the Codex Alimentarius. Calcium propionate is used as a preservative in a wide variety of products, including but not limited to bread, other bakery goods, processed meat, whey, and other dairy products.[1] In agriculture, it is used, amongst other things, to prevent milk fever in cows and as a feed supplement [2] Propionates prevent microbes from producing the energy they need, like benzoates do. However, unlike benzoates, propionates do not require an acidic environment.[3]
Calcium propionate is used in bakery products as a mold inhibitor. Mold contamination is considered a serious problem amongst bakers, and conditions commonly found in baking present near-optimal conditions for mold growth.[4]
A few decades ago, Bacillus mesentericus (rope), was a serious problem,[citation needed] but today's improved sanitary practices in the bakery, combined with rapid turnover of the finished product, have virtually eliminated this form of spoilage.[citation needed] Calcium propionate and sodium propionate are effective against both Bacillus mesentericus rope and mold.[citation needed]
According to the Pesticide Action Network North America, calcium propionate is slightly toxic.[5] This rating is not uncommon for food products; Vitamin C is also rated by the same standards as being slightly toxic. [6] Calcium propionate can be used as a pesticide.[7]"
warburtons crumpets is the only ingredients list i can come across on the net but :
Wheat flour, water, salt, Raising agents E450,E500,Yeast,Sugar,Preservative Calcium Propionate.
so far the only use i can see for the real E900 is Silly Putty.
oh how I love my tea, tea in the afternoon. I can't do without it, and I think I'll have another cup very
ve-he-he-he-heryyyyyyy soooooooooooon!!!!
ve-he-he-he-heryyyyyyy soooooooooooon!!!!
