Cheers Darroch, I must ask him what separate lenses he has as I know he has telephoto ones (these are all from the old non digital - he bought the same camera in digital format because of that) - I'm just normally a point and shoot type of photographer on idiot proof setting - even when I try something clever it all seems to come out the same

but I'm getting more interested in macro shots and photography in general, maybe one day I may even read the manual on how to use the camera.
Sorry to go off topic by the way Bonnie.
