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Wasn't this idea started as a practical joke years ago?

Would changing the clocks really reduce emissions? Until I can analyse the report then I can't quantify on the supposed effects,
also a differential would exists on where in the country or the globe one is. I remember being at work when the UK tried it before, I worked on building sites, we had to have generators for lights, when not on site we could not start till it got light, kids going to school in reflective clothing, it was a rubbish idea.

Nature allots us a number of day light hours, no matter what we do we can't alter that, its only the consumer society that fuels the need to alter things.

I live in a small town, there is only one, yes one street with the new Phillips energy saver street lights, they were converted six years ago!!! Were is the rest I ask, I have asked how much energy our council uses in street lighting, public buildings and schools, guess what, they don't know, I despair. :-(

I think it's one of those ideas that look great if you're a student playing on your laptop who has never had a real job milking cows at godknowswot am. And for Scotland I think we should find out what Norway does and copy them - because they seem a lot more sensible in Scandinavia and get by with a lot less drama

OK mate,I've spent a life time milking at god knows when am then again 12 hrs later, and seeing as it's done indoors these last 150 years I couldn't give a monkeys wether it's light or dark outside,cos like you guys in the built up places,we got leccy now too!(and most of the decent ideas these days seem to come from from people 'playing on laptops').

Arghhhh, this year the change of the hour has really got me. It's never done it before. I was in a meeting for what seemed like hours on Thursday afternoon. I glanced at the clock in the meeting room and it said 4:20. I was getting a lift at half past so I pushed everyone through the rest of the meeting as quick as I could and rushed back to my desk to close the computer down. Only, when I got there the computer said 3:25. I was gutted, the meeting room clock hadnt been put back.

Then yesterday morning I put a watch on that I hadn't worn for a week. Guess what, I was running an hour early for half the day.

Arggggh.

Zoe

simply put time is an illusion lunch time doubly so, you don't see animals checking their watches, so neither should we, the sun goes up the sun goes down and we eat when we are hungry, thats the way god intended it.

Oh yes and I have said it before the industrial revolution was a mistake and manual labour never killed anyone, just laziness!

Oh yes and I have said it before the industrial revolution was a mistake and manual labour never killed anyone, just laziness![/quote]


Isn't 'laziness' a concept primarily used to beat up on those who lost out as a result of industrialization?

To me laziness is the same as greed, greed for something a person should earn without taking shortcuts.

machines maybe quicker but they destroy the bond we have with the land and each other, example
my great uncle always used manual shears not machine yet he never cut a sheep not even once because he had a greater feeling for what he was doing. the younger guys were faster but caiused more daamage.

example... I take the time to write a letter to my friends around New Zealand but they still only email a reply, which seems to lack emotion.

a n old neihgbour of mine would lovingly go over his lawn with a fine tooth comb removing any weeds he found yet his other neighbout just mowed his yet complained that his lawn never looked as good.

doing it quicker does not necessarily make it better

I agree ,especially with the sentiment,but from the minute humans used tools, machines were probably inevitable,I think perhaps it's more important who owns,said machines,and most of all who constructs it.Ive done a lot of manual labour,and to be honest,however good it was for my soul,any machine that made it a bit easier,or quicker,thus making the day less tedious was welcome.But I do in spirit agree with all you say,I cant think much beyond Ludic theory.

Interesting thread, but at the risk of sounding absolutely stupid, surely the nights and mornings are darker anyway in winter so we automatically use more electricity regardless of where our clocks are????

Not if we are asleep.

Let's reduce carbon emissions by hibernating! No getting up early from the start of December to the end of February. Our slogan could be something like "Save the Planet by Sleeping In" - I reckon that would get some support. Who's with me?

gregorach wrote:Let's reduce carbon emissions by hibernating! No getting up early from the start of December to the end of February. Our slogan could be something like "Save the Planet by Sleeping In" - I reckon that would get some support. Who's with me?

Me And can i go back to my bed when it gets dark?

All the Students have been on that one for years!

gregorach wrote:Let's reduce carbon emissions by hibernating! No getting up early from the start of December to the end of February. Our slogan could be something like "Save the Planet by Sleeping In" - I reckon that would get some support. Who's with me?

But doesn't that mean you have to get up at 4am (ish) in summer to compensate?