Cake question
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Cake question
I've decided to make my own christmas pudding and cake this year - my mother used to do it but is now not really up to the job. I've got some fabulous recipes which I'm eager to try - and the fruit's soaking to put in the pudding even as I write.
My daughter's vegan so both have to be suitable for her. My problem is - all the vegan rich, dark fruit cake recipes I've found all say they won't keep longer than 4 weeks. It doesn't say this on the pudding recipes. The ingredients are only slightly different, it's the method of cooking that differs so drastically between the two.
So my questions are
1) Why won't the fruitcake keep - the only thing missing from an ordinary one is eggs, and traditional cakes keep for years
2) If the cake won't keep, does that mean the pudding won't either?
Any ideas - I'd really like to get both done this week so they can both be doused liberally (or should that be soused ) but don't want to have to waste good food if they won't keep.
My daughter's vegan so both have to be suitable for her. My problem is - all the vegan rich, dark fruit cake recipes I've found all say they won't keep longer than 4 weeks. It doesn't say this on the pudding recipes. The ingredients are only slightly different, it's the method of cooking that differs so drastically between the two.
So my questions are
1) Why won't the fruitcake keep - the only thing missing from an ordinary one is eggs, and traditional cakes keep for years
2) If the cake won't keep, does that mean the pudding won't either?
Any ideas - I'd really like to get both done this week so they can both be doused liberally (or should that be soused ) but don't want to have to waste good food if they won't keep.
Maggie
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Re: Cake question
i dont do christmas cake.. so dont know.. but the pudding, I would have thoguht it would keep just the same
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Re: Cake question
I imagine the only things missing from the pud would be suet and eggs; I don't know if you can use vegetarian suet for vegans though.
I can't see how the lack of eggs would mean either the cake or the pud wouldn't keep for a long time.
But - I'm not an expert on these matters!
I can't see how the lack of eggs would mean either the cake or the pud wouldn't keep for a long time.
But - I'm not an expert on these matters!
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Re: Cake question
I make a suet-less pudding a la Mrs Beeton and as they are made 3 at a time, I freeze the others. That works very well but the one not frozen keeps for at least 2 months in a cool place.
We eat the other two at Easter and mid-summer's day.
Christmas cake I always understood kept for a few months purely because it was doused in brandy, same as pickling.
After all, ordinary cake keeps for quite some time, just dries out, which sprinkling with alcohol would cure.
We eat the other two at Easter and mid-summer's day.
Christmas cake I always understood kept for a few months purely because it was doused in brandy, same as pickling.
After all, ordinary cake keeps for quite some time, just dries out, which sprinkling with alcohol would cure.
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Re: Cake question
Hmm, I'm not sure about this, I can't see why it wouldn't last I made some vegan cupcakes recently and they were the lightest fluffiest cupcakes I've ever made, I was really pleased as I'm definitely not an expert! Check out this website for gorgeous recipes! http://vegancupcakes.wordpress.com/
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Re: Cake question
When I get home I will post you my eggless, fatless, sugarless fruit cake recipe it is lovely(but can be a bit windy), and I'm sure if you were to feed it enough brandy (if that is an option it would keep for a good deal longer than 4weeks!
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Re: Cake question
Found it
Fatless, Sugarless,Eggless Fruitcake
1tbsp carob flour (we use cocoa)
500g mixed fruit
185g wholemeal flour
3tbsp baking powder
rind of orange
4tbsp ground almonds
1tsp mixed spice
250g dates
10fl oz boiling water
4tbsp orange juice
Method
1. Soak dates in boiling water until soft,then liquidise.
2.Meanwhile combine the rest of the dry ingredients
3. Add wet ingredients and the liquidised dates, mix really well.
4.PLace in 7" cake tin and bake 170C for around 1.5hours
Eat and enjoy
Hope that helps
Merry christmas
Becks
Fatless, Sugarless,Eggless Fruitcake
1tbsp carob flour (we use cocoa)
500g mixed fruit
185g wholemeal flour
3tbsp baking powder
rind of orange
4tbsp ground almonds
1tsp mixed spice
250g dates
10fl oz boiling water
4tbsp orange juice
Method
1. Soak dates in boiling water until soft,then liquidise.
2.Meanwhile combine the rest of the dry ingredients
3. Add wet ingredients and the liquidised dates, mix really well.
4.PLace in 7" cake tin and bake 170C for around 1.5hours
Eat and enjoy
Hope that helps
Merry christmas
Becks
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Re: Cake question
Thanks becks
I've actually found one very similar but, I think, a little simpler. It called for half a pint of water to soak the fruit in so I've substituted Guiness - seems reasonable
I'm going to do the usual brandy thing between now and christmas, so fingers crossed it keeps! If I remember I'll let you know how well it does.
I still don't understand why a rich dark fruit cake, vegan or not, wouldn't keep. But all the recipes specifically said - only 4 weeks.
I've actually found one very similar but, I think, a little simpler. It called for half a pint of water to soak the fruit in so I've substituted Guiness - seems reasonable
I'm going to do the usual brandy thing between now and christmas, so fingers crossed it keeps! If I remember I'll let you know how well it does.
I still don't understand why a rich dark fruit cake, vegan or not, wouldn't keep. But all the recipes specifically said - only 4 weeks.
Maggie
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Re: Cake question
Oh dear, Guinness isn't vegan as far as I'm aware as it's filtered through islinglassGreen Aura wrote:Thanks becks
I've actually found one very similar but, I think, a little simpler. It called for half a pint of water to soak the fruit in so I've substituted Guiness - seems reasonable
I'm going to do the usual brandy thing between now and christmas, so fingers crossed it keeps! If I remember I'll let you know how well it does.
I still don't understand why a rich dark fruit cake, vegan or not, wouldn't keep. But all the recipes specifically said - only 4 weeks.
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Re: Cake question
Sounds deliciousGreen Aura wrote:Thanks becks
I've actually found one very similar but, I think, a little simpler. It called for half a pint of water to soak the fruit in so I've substituted Guiness - seems reasonable
I'm going to do the usual brandy thing between now and christmas, so fingers crossed it keeps! If I remember I'll let you know how well it does.
I still don't understand why a rich dark fruit cake, vegan or not, wouldn't keep. But all the recipes specifically said - only 4 weeks.
loads of brandy maybe ...it preserved Nelson for longer than 4 weeks!!!! He he
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