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Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:41 pm
by doofaloofa
My rabbits seem to enjoy eating it, but it's so poisonous to some other animals

Any one had a rabbit die from ragwort poisoning?

Re: Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 4:43 pm
by diggernotdreamer
I am surprised the rabbits are eating it, it is so bitter, all I know about ragwort is that it is a cumulative poison, so it will not kill them immediately, have you cut it down and dried it a little, that makes it more palatable which may be why they are eating it

Re: Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:12 pm
by doofaloofa
They eat it growing in the ground and fresh picked, though I've stopped purpously giving it to them

Re: Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:15 pm
by tosca
It's poisonous to almost all animals including humans, and a skin irritant to boot.

Re: Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:51 pm
by diggernotdreamer
Your rabbits are right, ragwort (Marsh at any rate) tastes good, my rabbits just ate some, I tasted it, and it was fairly pleasant, the paca's don't touch it, causes liver failure over a period of time

Re: Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:25 am
by doofaloofa
I read on the interwebz that sheep can eat it

Re: Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:01 am
by tosca
Sheep and cattle are more tolerant, but they are usually slaughtered before they die. Most animals would only eat it when really hungry, even when it is wilted and more palatable.

Re: Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:28 pm
by doofaloofa
tosca wrote:Sheep and cattle are more tolerant, but they are usually slaughtered before they die. Most animals would only eat it when really hungry, even when it is wilted and more palatable.
This is my quandry

they have other food available, but choose to eat it fresh

I'm thinking they would avoid it if it was bad for them

I supose I should just avoid it, but I hate to live in fear

Not seen any Cinibar moths catapillas this season

Re: Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:36 pm
by Crickleymal
Our chickens used to eat rhubarb leaves (until I moved it). They'd eat enough to make themselves ill, stop eating it untril they got better then start again. They never learnt.

Re: Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:57 pm
by doofaloofa
The rabbits eat the rhubard leaves also to no ill effect

Re: Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:11 am
by daz101
This is a very toxic plant and as has been said it is cumulative. I would not let any animal of mine eat it.
http://www.gov.je/SiteCollectionDocumen ... eaflet.pdf

Re: Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:47 am
by doofaloofa
"Sheep and goats will eagerly eat the rosettes and crowns over winter
and early spring, and providing the weed is not
too abundant, they rarely come to harm "

From the informative pdf you posted daz, thanks

It seems ragwort is a problem for horse and cow owners, and then if it is in hay/silage, or if the animals are forced to eat it due to poor management

Re: Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:10 pm
by doofaloofa
"Common ragwort (Senecio jacobaea)
has finely divided leaves with a blunt end lobe and appears as a rosette from which a tall flowering spike develops in April/May topped by a large flat topped head with yellow flowers borne on one or more stout stems. It prefers lighter drier, lighter soils, but can occur anywhere.

Marsh ragwort (Senecio aquaticus)
has less divided leaves and a smaller, more irregular head on a shorter, slender stem. It occurs on heavy or poorly drained soil, and is particularly abundant on Orkney; locally elsewhere.

Oxford ragwort (Senecio squalidus)
is similar to marsh ragwort, but the leaves have a pointed end lobe. It is found locally in drier areas, particularly near railway lines and roadsides. It is, however, found more commonly in the south of Britain.

A related weed, Groundsel (Senecio vulgaris)
is also poisonous to stock, but is much more rarely a weed of grassland.
"

(my bold)

More from the SAC pdf.

The rabbits also devour groundsel

Re: Rabbits and ragwort?

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:39 am
by tizzy
Rhubarb leaves (and the green parts of the stems) contain oxalic acid, so do dock leaves. This is a cumulative poison and it is best to avoid it for rabbits. I don't worry too much if the odd baby dock leaf is in the grass and herbs I cut for mine but never let them eat the bigger leaves or any with rusty coloured spots on them.
Sheep love docks and are ok to eat them, mine make a bee-line for them unless there is ground elder to scoff first, but as a rabbits GI system is so easily disrupted with fatal results I think it's best to be selective about what you feed them. There are so many common herbs, deciduous leaves and cultivars they can eat that it's probably best to play safe and remove the dodgy ones.
Also, if you are keeping them as meat rabbits, wouldn't that mean that you too are ingesting the cumulative toxins?