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How much sugar to add to cider - If any - 1st attempt
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 4:46 pm
by gray_bale
As I have a large orchard of many different varieties of apple, this is the first time I have had a go at cider making on a small scale, ie a single gallon.
I have used apples from many different trees, some sweet and some sour as hell.
Now the SG is 1050, so how much sugar if any do I need add if any ??
Re: How much sugar to add to cider - If any - 1st attempt
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 5:52 pm
by irigg
Personally i like a slightly above average strengh cider and at this S.G i would add 500 grams of sugar and ferment to S.G 0995 - 1000 . 1010 if you like a sweeter cider bottle and prime with 1tsp sugar per pint hope this helps
Re: How much sugar to add to cider - If any - 1st attempt
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:46 pm
by MKG
Assuming your SG reading is correct, 1050 will produce a cider at about 6% ABV if it ferments out to dryness. Adding 500 grams of sugar (assuming that's per gallon) as irigg suggests would give you between 8% and 9% ABV.
6% represents a fairly "strong" cider as defined in upmarket food magazines. 8% represents a strong cider full stop. So - it all depends on your own preferences.
Mike
Re: How much sugar to add to cider - If any - 1st attempt
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:18 am
by irigg
hi sorry i thought you where doing a 5 gallon batch my mistake

Re: How much sugar to add to cider - If any - 1st attempt
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:25 am
by boboff
Definately your choice, but I would think that you have it about right on its own, and if you don't have to add sugar, then why bother?
How bad a head do you want in the morning?
Re: How much sugar to add to cider - If any - 1st attempt
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:14 pm
by clanpowell
boboff wrote:Definately your choice, but I would think that you have it about right on its own, and if you don't have to add sugar, then why bother?
How bad a head do you want in the morning?
We agree. We've never added sugar to our cider and it's always been great. You could add some when/if you bottle it. Half a teaspoon in a botlle for a secondary fermentation gives it a nice fizz. A friend of mine added honey at the bottling stage. It were gert lush

Re: How much sugar to add to cider - If any - 1st attempt
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:48 pm
by gray_bale
I like the idea of honey, but does it impart any flavouring ??
I was thinking of using sugar beet, as I know that it is used as a sweetener in champagne, as an approved ingredient.
I do not like the idea of using refined sugar. As I think its against the principles of 'cyder' making.
Re: How much sugar to add to cider - If any - 1st attempt
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:58 pm
by MKG
Well, using any added sugar - or any other additions at all - is against those principles. Trad. cider is fermented apple juice with no additions. But there's no written law - make your booze however you like it.
Mike
Re: How much sugar to add to cider - If any - 1st attempt
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:57 am
by clanpowell
The honey did give a bit of flavour. Not loads. It wasn't a case of "wow you added honey" It was subtle, in the background.
Re: How much sugar to add to cider - If any - 1st attempt
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 5:56 pm
by gray_bale
Ok then after just 10 days, the SG has gone from 1050 to 1000 with no bubbling from the airlock.
Should I still wait a touch longer for the SG to go even lower to say 995.
It seems to have fermented for only a very short period of time. I remember my dad many years ago making wine, and it used to ferment for months and months. Is this normal ??/
Re: How much sugar to add to cider - If any - 1st attempt
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:10 pm
by irigg
Re: How much sugar to add to cider - If any - 1st attempt
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:08 pm
by gray_bale
I think I might do that. As it seems I will not have much to do next week, in all that frost and snow.
I was going to pick up 50 odd cider and perry trees tomorrow, but I think thats on hold now. Probably I won't be able to get them out the ground.
I will leave till Monday, try and bottle into old champagne bottles, and then add, what say quarter teaspoon of sugar per bottle, and cork tightly.
Hopefully be ready for Xmas. I might even make another gallon with some remaining windfalls.
Re: How much sugar to add to cider - If any - 1st attempt
Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:00 pm
by Sky
Sounds yummm!