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Strange fruit

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:33 pm
by littleblackfox
I moved into a new place in North Lincs a couple of months ago, and there is a tree (not a giant tree, it's the same height as the wild cherry next to it) planted just out front on the roadside that for the life of me I can't identify. It has been in fruit throughout september, and they have been dropping over the last week or so.

The fruits form in small clusters in a way that reminds me of cherries, but the leaves look more plum-ish to me.

Anyone have any idea what it could be? And, most importantly, can it be fermented?!

Cack-handed attempt to upload attachment below...

Jx

Re: Strange fruit

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:51 pm
by jampot
looks like a crab apple to me but not entirley sure

Re: Strange fruit

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:41 pm
by littleblackfox
Hi Jampot!

When I first saw the fruits I thought they looked like rosehips, as there remains of the flowers (style, stamen, whatever-it-was) were still on the end, though they seem to have fallen off now. I seem to recall crabapples having 5 seeds in a star shape when cut across the middle, like a regular-apple, is that right?

Re: Strange fruit

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:55 pm
by jampot
have you cut one thru middle -wise ?? to look for the star shape

Re: Strange fruit

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:20 pm
by healer
Could be a "cherry-crab" There seems to be many crosses with the siberian crab that has very small fruit. John Downie is one cross which is great for apple jelly - the fruit is quite large though. The Brogdale National Fruit collection has some pictures of siberian crab and its crosses but not many (yet)

Re: Strange fruit

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:29 pm
by MuddyWitch
My thought is Prunus avium or bird cherry.

http://www.trees-online.co.uk/images/wi ... ium-76.jpg
MW

Re: Strange fruit

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:47 pm
by MKG
In terms of appearance and growth habit, I'd go along with MuddyWitch. Except Littleblackfox's photo shows one cut straight down the middle and there doesn't appear to be a stone. I thought all cherries had stones?????

Mike

Re: Strange fruit

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:40 pm
by Hedgehogpie
I'd say it's a crab apple of some kind, it's far too late in the year for prunus avium to be fruiting.

Re: Strange fruit

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:54 am
by MKG
The red flesh was getting me. However ...

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/suttonelms/apple43.html

... hmmmmm.

Mike

Re: Strange fruit

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:00 am
by Milims
Interesting site MKG. My mum's apple tree grows fruit with a pink tinge to their flesh - they are yummy!
As to the original pics - I'd say a variety of crab apple too. Bird cherries tend to be in the late spring/ summer here and they have a large stone in the middle with not much flesh around them

Re: Strange fruit

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:49 am
by Millymollymandy
Do crab apples normally grow with a long cherry like stem? I've never seen a crap apple tree up close so just assumed they'd be attached like a regular apple. :scratch:

Re: Strange fruit

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:45 pm
by healer
cherry crabs have the long stems thats why I suggested it

Re: Strange fruit

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:37 pm
by littleblackfox
Well I cut through one crossways today, and it has a star, so it looks like its a crabapple (I've never seen a red crabapple before!)

thanks for all the advice!