the problem I find when talking to people who are "deniers" is the general arrogance of humanity.
Now, it's not just climate change (which will happen even if humans are not on the planet - it's the natural cycle of the system) - but the actual destruction and ruination of the natural system itself that I find staggering that people can't understand or perceive. Surely people can see that our reliance on over the top consumerism and consumption of natural resources and natural environments will and does cause an affect on the system as a whole.
I think generally the media and discussions on "climate change" are far too simplistic - which falls into the hands of those who want to claim that humans are having no affect on the system (from now on I'll use Spaceship Earth to cover the meaning).
We as a species seem hell bent on destroying Spaceship Earth - Richard Buckminster Fuller as far back as the late 50's saw that we were heading for (taking a title of one of his books) Utopia or Oblivion - and it's up to each and everyone of us to decide which one we want to head to.
So, not only are there a variety of man made chemicals gases that are being released that WILL cause an affect on Spaceship Earth there are also
* Clouds formed from Condensation trails of aircrafts - which no doubt have some affect on the weather systems,
* Over fishing of the seas, which create a knock on affect to the eco System
* Chemicals allowed to flow into the water system
* Modification of land causing water systems to change course, causing an affect on the geographical system
* Deforestation and decline in biodiversity - which causes an affect
* A exponential increase in Population
The list goes on an on. And the main reasons for these activities occurring is that of Global Capitalism and the general infrastructure that allows profits to come before common sense.
So when people only focus on one tiny minor point (which at present is that of C02 and "carbon footprints") we lose focus on the fact that as humans each and everyone of of us are responsible for the way we conduct ourselves on this planet. After all the main emphasis on the global political side of this is that of carbon trading and using this whole mess as a means to generate more fictional "credit" and means for those who are in the place of "power" to gain in a materialistic sense and the rest (which I include the vast majority of humanity and the rest of the inhabitants of Spaceship Earth) are essentially expendable.
I found this book incredibly positive when I read it - Operating Manial for Spaceship Earth - By Richard Buckminster Fuller (there seems to be a web version here -
http://www.futurehi.net/docs/OperatingManual.html)
Now there is one outstandingly important fact regarding Spaceship Earth, and that is that no instruction book came with it.
sorry for the rant...
