Are there plots on the market with old cottages on them... I mean OLD... you know the ones with barely 3 walls and rarely a roof.
If you could get a field with a building like that, it maybe possible to 'rebuild' the cottage. I think that as long as you can say the last use was residential, you can put another cottage on the site.
It might reduce planning permission problems
What area are you thinking of Kiwirach? Scotland might be an idea - north of Loch Lomond, or north west towards Kintyre.
Ann Pan
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some days you're the lamp-post"
kiwirach wrote:zoe, your post was quite encouraging, then i go read TG's!!.
Sorry
Don't let my post put you off - it is not impossible to get consent, but planners make it as difficult as they can to prevent all and sundry doing it - so you are right that one person having a few acres to life on/off is not much in the grand scheme, but if loads of people did it, there would be no countryside left, hence the hurdles.
Whilst hoping I don't start a stampede, and subsequently pricing my self out my long term plan, there are areas of Scotland (particularly those depopulated by the dreaded Clearances) where council's positively encourage re population and will support sympathetic development. The more remote you go, the cheaper the land.
Please don't all rush at once.....
i'm not put off by your remarks...i need this mix of info to weigh up this 'new discovery' to me. i have no idea where to start looking for info, which is why i put this thread up. your input is valuable to me...thanks.
Annpan wrote:Are there plots on the market with old cottages on them... I mean OLD... you know the ones with barely 3 walls and rarely a roof.
If you could get a field with a building like that, it maybe possible to 'rebuild' the cottage. I think that as long as you can say the last use was residential, you can put another cottage on the site.
It might reduce planning permission problems
What area are you thinking of Kiwirach? Scotland might be an idea - north of Loch Lomond, or north west towards Kintyre.
i am happy to look at all options i can afford...hench realising i could actually get some land!.
as for where...the country is my oyster, so to speak!'. i would love to look at areas i have ancestral ties to, which means devon (might be able to afford a flower bed in devon!) or scotland!!. i have just seen an ad for 24acres near wick with sea views....it has a ruined wall on it
what i really need to do is find the planning permission stuff so that i can get to grips with the rules, before i get blindsided by lots of land with sea views!!.
and to be honest, i dont really need 24acres....half of that would be more than enough...it'll just be me and a or 3!
Do bear in mind that before any land hits the open market, every estate agent and developer in the area will have given it the "once over" for the possibility of building on it, and "turning a profit" - if you do find cheap land, you can be pretty sure there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of getting a legal dwelling on it.......
There was a phase of "pony plots", whereby bits of farmland were divided into small plots and flogged off at ludicrous prices to unsuspecting townies as "pony plots" with the implied hint that they could build on them.........
At the risk of being seen as the board's "Eeyore", don't raise your hopes too high.......there's a lot of dodgy people in the property business
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Martin wrote:Do bear in mind that before any land hits the open market, every estate agent and developer in the area will have given it the "once over" for the possibility of building on it, and "turning a profit" - if you do find cheap land, you can be pretty sure there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of getting a legal dwelling on it.......
I think there is less chance of this in the deepest, darkest north. There's more plots than developers - I often come across polts where the planning consent is about to expire. I partly blame highland estate agents, some of whom prepare cr4p marketing particulars! Having said that, I have a mate on the west coast who will not even look at stuff on the market - all his deals are off market.
It is quite common for crofts, especially on the west coast to have plots carved out of them. There's lots of 14a So-and-so, Isle of Skye and 1/2 of 12 So-and-so Isle of Lewis. This method is made further complicated by Crofting Land Law - vendors regualry don't have a heritable title to the land they are actually selling - it is part of their croft lease and a title is sought from the crofting landlord in a back to back sale to the purchaser. You really need a good solicitor who is conversant in crofting law for this.
I have a folder full of bookmarks for estate agents and land auctioneers and spend many a night looking....
oh all right then, I should have qualified it with "down here in the south"
I was thinking of the poster who was muttering about Devon.........definitely not a snowball's!
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I was looking at a plot that would have been ideal for me last year. OK, I wasn't very quick off the mark - but I wouldn't have had a chance to buy it anyway. It was part of a large estate, that was offered in lots of little plots or as a whole. Guess what? It went as a whole, to some developer or other. It would have been great... Old ruin of a house (but still with 4 walls and a roof, and visibly last used as a dwelling for humans!), next door to existing houses, so no problem with electricity or so, one hectare land, lightly wooded, a little stream, within walking distance of a village... And only three miles away from where I live now, so I could have popped over after work and pottered about...
Ina
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wick ay? Or week as its called! Well, i live just south of wick. Planning permission is no problem. They beg people to get planning no matter how in the countryside u are. Aye, land is cheap and plentiful. However, consider a few things. Aye, Caithness is beautiful and wild. It is expensive to live here and there are few jobs. The weather, er, the weather, wild indeed... Tonite they are quaking boots in the south of england over 80mph gusts the morn. Wickers maybe put on a jacket when it starts topping 100mph. Ive seen and heard sheds, roofs, shipping containers, sheep, and caravans fly off. So far, my yurt hasn't! However, i regularly have hair raising days when its blowing a proper hoolie. Forget the anenometer, I can tell the windpeed by how far my hand cranked laundry machine makes it across the field. I've not even lived here that long but ive seen lots of my neighbours come and go already and they r much like yerself just looking for a good life. But, in caithness you.ve really gotta work at it! But, hey its not as bad as north sutherland or fair isle is it!
This includes trying to grow food here in the climate and swift growing season. No trying to put u off but, its worth weighing up your situation. Any questions about the area and maybe i could help,
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